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Post by oseas3 on Apr 20, 2021 20:26:58 GMT
Oh! Thank you very much. I will do the translation and study it, later I will make a comment on the subject.
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Post by mfox on Apr 22, 2021 3:04:13 GMT
The birthplace of Antichrist
1 John 2:v.19
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
Very interesting this revelation of the Apostle John of the primitive Church. Who is the Apostle John talking about or to whom is he referring in the verse above? Do you know?
See, we know that the book of Revelation was showed to John around year 95 AD, i.e. 65 years after the ascension of JESUS to the third heaven. And we know also that there are two distinct Beasts described in Revelation 13:v. 1 to 18. Today, after about 2,000 years, we can and should discern both Beasts will lead two distinct satanic religious systems in near future, but one, the FIRST Man Beast, he already exists, the another has not yet, but he will manifest in near future.
In fact one already exists since ancient time, it has existed for about two thousand years, that is, the Beast of sea, a satanic religious system developed by Satan within the Roman Empire, after he had corrupted the church of Rome that was established by the Apostles Peter and Paul, both were killed by persecution, and thus was developed satanic Antichrist's movements through the corrupt church of Rome, the Catholic Church. Notice that Revelation describes 7 churches, and the church of Rome would be the eighth, but it was left out because the church of Rome was already completely disapproved by JESUS.
In fact, the church or Rome developed a systematic opposition against to the Churches of the Lord that preached the Gospel of God's Kingdom, preached firstly by the Lord JESUS Christ, and continued by the Apostles and disciples of the Lord, by the way, it is preached yet until today.
The satanic religious structures and organizations of the Roman Catholic Church within the Roman Empire, which rides upon the Beast of sea, the Pope, since the confuse election of the first Pope in the first century after Christ, who can be Linus or Clement, and for to increase the confuse election of whom really is the first Pope, the own Satan, the main leader of the blasphemer movement of Antichrist of the Roman Catholic Church, he himself, time after, from the late 2nd or early 3rd century the convention began of regarding Peter as the first pope. Its more a satanic blasphemy.
About the events above described, and the corruption of the Church of Rome, see what the Word of GOD reveals by the VISUAL testimony of Apostle John: 1 John 2:v.18-21
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that Antichrist shall come, even now are there many Antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They (the Church of Rome) went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
What we can say is that the woman, that is the Babylonian Roman Catholic Church, married to 266 Popes, currently Francis I is the Pope, she sits upon the scarlet colored Man Beast of sea, the Pope, the Papacy - from the Latin expression Pater Patrum - , full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns, reason by which the RCC is called Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth, which is drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.
THE PUNISHMENT OF THE ANCIENT AND CORRUPT CHURCH OF ROME FROM NOW ON - THE WORD IS GOD
Revelation 18:v. 1 to 5
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. (The Word is God)
In Christ JESUS, King of kings (kings made by Him - Revelation 5:v.10), and LORD of lords
Fellow in Christ JESUS Oseas
If you read the verses below 1 John 2:22 22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. 1 John 4:3 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. 2 John 1:7 I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. You will realize that the Pharisees claimed this while Jesus was alive before and during His trial and even after His resurrection claiming that Jesus didn’t rise. The bible backs this thus this shows that the spirit of antichrist was working before the church began proving that it didn’t come from the church. As long as their was a Jesus Christ there was an antichrist it is spiritual and trying to divert Israel from their God a messiah
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Post by oseas3 on Apr 24, 2021 4:20:31 GMT
The birthplace of Antichrist - The Antichrist was born from the church . OTOH, the cradle of Antichrist was the church, the church of Rome - see how
In continuation to the above theme about the apostate church of Rome, founded and developed by the Apostle Paul, Apostle of the Gentiles or of uncircumcision, at that time Satan was moving among the believers in JESUS trying to prevent the growth and the development of the people of God, the body of Christ, even to prevent the expansion of the Lord's churches, as revealed in the book of Revelation.
When Jesus sent his angel to John on the island of Patmos around 65 years after his ascension, in fact an archangel, at that time the church of Rome had completely apostatized, it was no longer part of the body of Christ, which is why JESUS directed messages only to seven churches in Asia, the church of Rome would have been the eighth if it had not apostatized.
Once the church in Rome had completely apostatized, the churches in Asia were also greatly threatened by the growth of apostasy and idolatry, but JESUS was watching Satan's movement against his Church, against His body here on earth, and sent a letter to every church in Asia, as everyone knows, warning and instructing that the deviations, and errors, and apostasies, which were taking root in the evangelical communities, were corrected.
We must not forget that each Church had, let's say, a Pastor or Bishop, who would be the angel of the local Church, and had the responsibility for the flock to keep it within the teachings of the gospel of the Lord JESUS, and that they abstain from idols, as John wrote in his first universal epistle saying: Little children, keep yourselves from idols. 1 John 5:v.21
What we can see by the letters sent to the churches of Asia is that several angels of the Churches failed, as follows: Revelation 1:v.1
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it BY HIS ANGEL unto his servant John: John was in Patmos and the angel of the LORD went to Patmos to give unto John the message that had received from JESUS to reveal unto John, as follow:
Rev.1:v.9-13&19
9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the Word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice-voice of the angel of the Lord, in fact an archangel-, as of a trumpet,
11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me (Who was speaking with John? Now, the angel sent by JESUS-Revelation 1:v.1,in fact, an archangel, he is a similar of Christ). And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks ONE LIKE UNTO THE SON OF MAN-similar to JESUS-clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
19 Write the things which thou have seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; What was hapenning with the angels of the Churches around the year 95AD? (And is not also happening the same things today?) Here goes:
Church of Ephesus - the angel left his first love and was fallen - And the Church, what was its spiritual condition?
1 - Conditions of the angel of the church of Ephesus: Rev. 2:4-5 - 4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. 5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
Church of Pergamos - the angel was tolerant with bad things-idolatry, fornications. Meditate on it and feel what the spiritual condition of the Church was like.
2 - Conditions of the angel of the church of Pergamos - Rev. 2:14-16 - 14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. 15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate. 16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
Church of Thyatira - the angel was tolerant with fornications and with the devilish Jezabel's doctrines of idolatries and more fornications. Meditate on it and feel what the spiritual condition of the Church was like.
3 - Conditions of the angel of the church of Thyatira - Rev.2: 20-21 - 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
Church of Sardiss - the angel was spiritually dead - And the Church? Meditate on it and feel what the spiritual condition of the Church was like.
4 - Conditions of the angel of the angel of Sardis - Rev.3:1-3 - And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. (The dead praise not the Lord,...Psalms 115:v.17) Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God. 3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Church of Laodiceah - the angel was wretched, miserable, poor, BLIND and naaked. And the Church? Meditate on it and feel what the spiritual condition of the Church was like.
5 - Conditions of the angel of the church of Laodiceah - Rev.3:16-17 - 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and BLIND, and naked: (if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.)
Churches of Smyrna and Philadelphia
6 - About the Churches of Smyrna and Philadelphia, there was not problems with the angels of them, but with the members of the Church and admirers of the Jews or inhabitants of Israel:
Church of Smirna Rev. 2:v.9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Church of Laodiceans Rev. 3:9 - Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
All these things above are happening in the Churches of the present time, the time of Apocalypse, where many members or almost all members are admirers of the Jews in general, and discern not them which are liars and are of the synagogue of Satan. - Romans 9:v.6 - For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
In Christ JESUS, KING of kings (kings made by Him), and LORD of lords Oseas (Hosea)
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Post by oseas3 on Apr 24, 2021 10:17:21 GMT
BE CAREFUL AND GET READY
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves,... 2 Ti.3:v.1-2
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 1 Ti. 4:v.1
2 Ti.4:v.1 to 5 4 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.
6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.
7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: (FOLLOW THIS GOOD EXAMPLE)
BE CAREFUL AND GET READY
2 Thessalonians 2:v.1-17 - (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him, - Read Matthew 25:v.8 to 11, it matters a lot -
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.
Philippians 3:v.1-2 and 13 to 21
3 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe.
2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. (DOGS? Be careful: Isaiah 56:v.10-12)
13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
Matthew 25:v.6
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? Luke 18:v.8
But without faith it is impossible to please Him: ... Hebrews 11:v.6
In Christ JESUS, KING of kings(kings made by HIM) and LORD of lords
P.S. Based on the Scriptures above, what is the hymn that we could sing? Any suggestion?
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Post by mfox on Apr 25, 2021 18:25:37 GMT
The birthplace of Antichrist - The Antichrist was born from the church . OTOH, the cradle of Antichrist was the church, the church of Rome - see how
In continuation to the above theme about the apostate church of Rome, founded and developed by the Apostle Paul, Apostle of the Gentiles or of uncircumcision, at that time Satan was moving among the believers in JESUS trying to prevent the growth and the development of the people of God, the body of Christ, even to prevent the expansion of the Lord's churches, as revealed in the book of Revelation. When Jesus sent his angel to John on the island of Patmos around 65 years after his ascension, in fact an archangel, at that time the church of Rome had completely apostatized, it was no longer part of the body of Christ, which is why JESUS directed messages only to seven churches in Asia, the church of Rome would have been the eighth if it had not apostatized. Once the church in Rome had completely apostatized, the churches in Asia were also greatly threatened by the growth of apostasy and idolatry, but JESUS was watching Satan's movement against his Church, against His body here on earth, and sent a letter to every church in Asia, as everyone knows, warning and instructing that the deviations, and errors, and apostasies, which were taking root in the evangelical communities, were corrected. We must not forget that each Church had, let's say, a Pastor or Bishop, who would be the angel of the local Church, and had the responsibility for the flock to keep it within the teachings of the gospel of the Lord JESUS, and that they abstain from idols, as John wrote in his first universal epistle saying: Little children, keep yourselves from idols. 1 John 5:v.21What we can see by the letters sent to the churches of Asia is that several angels of the Churches failed, as follows: Revelation 1:v.11 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it BY HIS ANGEL unto his servant John: John was in Patmos and the angel of the LORD went to Patmos to give unto John the message that had received from JESUS to reveal unto John, as follow: Rev.1:v.9-13&199 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the Word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice-voice of the angel of the Lord, in fact an archangel-, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me (Who was speaking with John? Now, the angel sent by JESUS-Revelation 1:v.1,in fact, an archangel, he is a similar of Christ). And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks ONE LIKE UNTO THE SON OF MAN-similar to JESUS-clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 19 Write the things which thou have seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; What was hapenning with the angels of the Churches around the year 95AD? (And is not also happening the same things today?) Here goes: Church of Ephesus - the angel left his first love and was fallen - And the Church, what was its spiritual condition? 1 - Conditions of the angel of the church of Ephesus: Rev. 2:4-5 - 4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. 5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. Church of Pergamos - the angel was tolerant with bad things-idolatry, fornications. Meditate on it and feel what the spiritual condition of the Church was like. 2 - Conditions of the angel of the church of Pergamos - Rev. 2:14-16 - 14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. 15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate. 16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. Church of Thyatira - the angel was tolerant with fornications and with the devilish Jezabel's doctrines of idolatries and more fornications. Meditate on it and feel what the spiritual condition of the Church was like. 3 - Conditions of the angel of the church of Thyatira - Rev.2: 20-21 - 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Church of Sardiss - the angel was spiritually dead - And the Church? Meditate on it and feel what the spiritual condition of the Church was like. 4 - Conditions of the angel of the angel of Sardis - Rev.3:1-3 - And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. ( The dead praise not the Lord,... Psalms 115:v.17) Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God. 3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. Church of Laodiceah - the angel was wretched, miserable, poor, BLIND and naaked. And the Church? Meditate on it and feel what the spiritual condition of the Church was like. 5 - Conditions of the angel of the church of Laodiceah - Rev.3:16-17 - 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and BLIND, and naked: (if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.)Churches of Smyrna and Philadelphia 6 - About the Churches of Smyrna and Philadelphia, there was not problems with the angels of them, but with the members of the Church and admirers of the Jews or inhabitants of Israel:Church of Smirna Rev. 2:v.9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Church of Laodiceans Rev. 3:9 - Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. All these things above are happening in the Churches of the present time, the time of Apocalypse, where many members or almost all members are admirers of the Jews in general, and discern not them which are liars and are of the synagogue of Satan. - Romans 9:v.6 - For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: In Christ JESUS, KING of kings (kings made by Him), and LORD of lords Oseas (Hosea) The antichrist did not come out of the church because it doesn’t believe that Jesus is the Christ so it was never in the church. The antichrist was trying to stop the church before it began it was working in apostate Israel denying that Jesus was from God and by doing that they also denied the Father. The scriptures back this up 1 John 2:22 22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. 1 John 4:3 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. 2 John 1:7 I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. The scriptures verified that the Pharisees were the spirit of antichrist as they did exactly what the three verses states. They were trying to wipe out the church before it began proving that the antichrist was present before the church began thus it never came out of the church
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Post by oseas3 on Apr 26, 2021 4:51:17 GMT
The spirit of Antichrist was working in Israel firstly because JESUS, as a Jew, preached the Gospel to the Jews in first hand. JESUS came unto His own, and His own received Him not. A severe punishment came upon Israel according to Deuteronomy 28: v.15 to 68 after 40 years of the ascension of JESUS, exactly in the year 70 AD and lasted until 1948, and more punishment comes, the worst of all, now is the eternal condemnation, the condemnation of hell-Matt.23: v.33-,for all the Jews who did not believe and believe not yet in JESUS and are synagogue of Satan.
Before His ascension, JESUS said to His disciples: "All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen." Matt.28:18-20.
After the ascension of JESUS, the Gospel was preached almost exclusively to the Gentiles in fulfillment of John 10:v.16 - 16 And other sheep I have (Gentiles), which are not of this fold (Israel): them(the Gentiles) also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
JESUS provided great growth for his Church through the Apostles and disciples, confirming the preaching of the true believers with signs and wonders that followed with the preaching of the Gospel (without Him nothing would be done)
Since then the Antichrist also expanded where the Gospel was being preached; churches were founded among the Gentiles mainly by the Apostle Paul, despite the advances of the Antichrist even in the midst of churches founded by the Apostles among the Gentiles, even the Church of Rome, which apostatized of the faith and fell in the hands of the Devil by complete, and then was born the Catholic Church, the Great Whore, the cradle of Antichrist among the primitive Churches, leaded and guided by the Beast of sea - the Pope, the Papacy, "et caterva", later was called Roman Catholic Church and it is until today.
Paul founded the Church of Corinthians and this Church was strongly influenced by the same evil spirit that had changed the Church of Rome to an apostate church. Paul said to the believers of Corinthians - 1 Cor.10: v.19-21: 19 What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing?
20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
2 Corinthians 11:v. 13 to 15
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers -MINISTERS OF SATAN -also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. (THE HELL'S FIRE)
JESUS HAD SAID: Matthew 13:v. 24 to 28 The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. (OTOH, the spirit of Devil, the own itself, even spirit of Antichrist, sowed the tares among God's people, even today he does the same within all the true churches of the Lord, but now, from now on, they will be cast into the lake of fire, the hell's fire, and for ever and ever.)
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Post by oseas3 on Apr 26, 2021 20:55:33 GMT
Hello mfox
Greetings in Christ
I did read your post of different view of Daniels 70 weeks, and here I do my comments as follow:
Thats OK.
OK, then we conclude that: 7 weeks (of years)----> 49 years 62 weeks (of years) --> 434 years
That said, we conclude also that: "IF" we do the math, the sum of the two periods is: ---> 483 years
Ah, I understood. 605 - 434 = 171 B.C.
But 605 - 70 years of captivity = Year 535 B.C.
But you said (quote): "The decree (the word to go and rebuild Jerusalem ; 538 B.C.) would trigger the understanding of the time line of the vision. Thus the decree of king Cyrus is the key to know and understand the 70 weeks. The decree of king Cyrus gives us a concrete date and point in time of the 70 weeks".
Then, that said, taking your own example..538 - 434 = 104 B.C., the result does not fit within your interpretation. If we take the whole 69 weeks = 483 yrs: 538 - 483 = Year 55 B.C.
Note that it is B.C. because JESUS, the Messiah, wasn't born yet, evidently.
There is a lot of contradiction in the theory was posted. False premises, incurs false conclusions. The theory above has nothing to do with the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD. The Word of Truth.
About contradiction of Bibles' versions that you question them, I prefer to believe in the Word of GOD. The Complete Jewish Bible says: Then, after the sixty-two weeks, Mashiach(the Messiah) will be cut off and have nothing. JESUS was also anointed, no? Isaiah 61:v.1 - The Spirit of Adonai Elohim is upon me, because Adonai has anointed me to announce good news to the poor. So, what is written in your post is fake, it is false completely.
Furthermore, the interpretation you posted must have left the angel Gabriel astonished , he would never say that Onias was the Messiah who was to come and would be the only begotten Son of GOD, the Word made flesh. To link this theory to the prophecy of week 70th of Daniel 9:v.25 it is a scorn, a diabolical mockery. From my part I would never write things as misleading a like that, but never.
False premises, incurs false conclusions. It is very sad what they do trying to adapt the Word of God to interpretations not revealed by the Holy Spirit, but by speculations, and presumptions, and conjectures, and imaginations, and opinions, and so on.
False premises, incurs false conclusions. It is very sad.
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Post by mfox on May 3, 2021 0:33:14 GMT
Hello mfox Greetings in Christ I did read your post of different view of Daniels 70 weeks, and here I do my comments as follow: Thats OK. OK, then we conclude that: 7 weeks (of years)----> 49 years 62 weeks (of years) --> 434 years That said, we conclude also that: "IF" we do the math, the sum of the two periods is: ---> 483 years Ah, I understood. 605 - 434 = 171 B.C. But 605 - 70 years of captivity = Year 535 B.C. But you said (quote): "The decree (the word to go and rebuild Jerusalem ; 538 B.C.) would trigger the understanding of the time line of the vision. Thus the decree of king Cyrus is the key to know and understand the 70 weeks. The decree of king Cyrus gives us a concrete date and point in time of the 70 weeks". Then, that said, taking your own example..538 - 434 = 104 B.C., the result does not fit within your interpretation. If we take the whole 69 weeks = 483 yrs: 538 - 483 = Year 55 B.C. Note that it is B.C. because JESUS, the Messiah, wasn't born yet, evidently. There is a lot of contradiction in the theory was posted. False premises, incurs false conclusions. The theory above has nothing to do with the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD. The Word of Truth. About contradiction of Bibles' versions that you question them, I prefer to believe in the Word of GOD. The Complete Jewish Bible says: Then, after the sixty-two weeks, Mashiach(the Messiah) will be cut off and have nothing. JESUS was also anointed, no? Isaiah 61:v.1 - The Spirit of Adonai Elohim is upon me, because Adonai has anointed me to announce good news to the poor. So, what is written in your post is fake, it is false completely. Furthermore, the interpretation you posted must have left the angel Gabriel astonished , he would never say that Onias was the Messiah who was to come and would be the only begotten Son of GOD, the Word made flesh. To link this theory to the prophecy of week 70th of Daniel 9:v.25 it is a scorn, a diabolical mockery. From my part I would never write things as misleading a like that, but never. False premises, incurs false conclusions. It is very sad what they do trying to adapt the Word of God to interpretations not revealed by the Holy Spirit, but by speculations, and presumptions, and conjectures, and imaginations, and opinions, and so on. False premises, incurs false conclusions. It is very sad. Hi Oseas How about this matching history? Who would of the Jews living through the time of the Maccabees of thought Daniel was talking about? You missed a few things in my study like the 7 weeks running parallel to some of the 62 weeks which changes the mistaken time line that you thought that I had that didn’t match. There were also many anointed people in the bible besides Jesus. Jesus is the one and only Messiah I would be interested to hear your thoughts to my three points at the end of my study that weren’t addressed I think that they are very important
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Post by mfox on May 3, 2021 0:39:33 GMT
The spirit of Antichrist was working in Israel firstly because JESUS, as a Jew, preached the Gospel to the Jews in first hand. JESUS came unto His own, and His own received Him not. A severe punishment came upon Israel according to Deuteronomy 28: v.15 to 68 after 40 years of the ascension of JESUS, exactly in the year 70 AD and lasted until 1948, and more punishment comes, the worst of all, now is the eternal condemnation, the condemnation of hell -Matt.23: v.33-,for all the Jews who did not believe and believe not yet in JESUS and are synagogue of Satan. Before His ascension, JESUS said to His disciples: "All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen." Matt.28:18-20. After the ascension of JESUS, the Gospel was preached almost exclusively to the Gentiles in fulfillment of John 10:v.16 - 16 And other sheep I have (Gentiles), which are not of this fold (Israel): them(the Gentiles) also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. JESUS provided great growth for his Church through the Apostles and disciples, confirming the preaching of the true believers with signs and wonders that followed with the preaching of the Gospel (without Him nothing would be done)Since then the Antichrist also expanded where the Gospel was being preached; churches were founded among the Gentiles mainly by the Apostle Paul, despite the advances of the Antichrist even in the midst of churches founded by the Apostles among the Gentiles, even the Church of Rome, which apostatized of the faith and fell in the hands of the Devil by complete, and then was born the Catholic Church, the Great Whore, the cradle of Antichrist among the primitive Churches, leaded and guided by the Beast of sea - the Pope, the Papacy, "et caterva", later was called Roman Catholic Church and it is until today. Paul founded the Church of Corinthians and this Church was strongly influenced by the same evil spirit that had changed the Church of Rome to an apostate church. Paul said to the believers of Corinthians - 1 Cor.10: v.19-21: 19 What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing? 20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. 21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. 2 Corinthians 11:v. 13 to 15
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers -MINISTERS OF SATAN -also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. (THE HELL'S FIRE) JESUS HAD SAID: Matthew 13:v. 24 to 28The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat , and went his way. 26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. (OTOH, the spirit of Devil, the own itself, even spirit of Antichrist, sowed the tares among God's people, even today he does the same within all the true churches of the Lord, but now, from now on, they will be cast into the lake of fire, the hell's fire, and for ever and ever.) So if you agree that the antichrist was working within apostate Israel before Jesus death then he couldn’t of been born out of the church
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Post by Les Brewer on May 3, 2021 21:49:36 GMT
Hi oseas3 and mfox, I have moved this discussion to Christian chat where you can continue here....
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Post by oseas3 on May 5, 2021 17:50:04 GMT
Greetings in Christ JESUS
OK brother. Thanks for your notification.
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Post by oseas3 on May 5, 2021 19:04:55 GMT
Greetings in Christ JESUS
As you know, John spoke to the Church, to the disciples or believers in JESUS, about the existence of Antichrist within the Churches, in fact several churches were newly born and were still being formed, but the spirit of Antichrist at this time was working more aggressively to prevent the development and growth of the work of God or the kingdom of God, through the name of Jesus, and through the preaching of His Apostles and disciples.
But if we analyze more deeply the demonic movements of Antichrist, we can categorically affirm that Antichrist started to emerge since the birth of JESUS, no?
Satan is Antichrist himself, he is the planner, and creator and developer of all Antichrist movements, remember, Satan tried to kill JESUS even when he was a baby, after all Satan was and still is the Dominator/domineering of the world with its inhabitants - Luke 4: v. 5 to 7, with the exception of true believers who still struggle against his satanic world that will be burned with everlasting fire from now on, the hell's fire.
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Post by mfox on May 6, 2021 1:12:21 GMT
Greetings in Christ JESUSAs you know, John spoke to the Church, to the disciples or believers in JESUS, about the existence of Antichrist within the Churches, in fact several churches were newly born and were still being formed, but the spirit of Antichrist at this time was working more aggressively to prevent the development and growth of the work of God or the kingdom of God, through the name of Jesus, and through the preaching of His Apostles and disciples. But if we analyze more deeply the demonic movements of Antichrist, we can categorically affirm that Antichrist started to emerge since the birth of JESUS, no?
Satan is Antichrist himself, he is the planner, and creator and developer of all Antichrist movements, remember, Satan tried to kill JESUS even when he was a baby, after all Satan was and still is the Dominator/domineering of the world with its inhabitants - Luke 4: v. 5 to 7, with the exception of true believers who still struggle against his satanic world that will be burned with everlasting fire from now on, the hell's fire. Yes I agree that was my point antichrist was around before the church was started
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Post by gator on May 12, 2021 13:48:08 GMT
tbcoffice@thebereancall.org
Here is the link to The Berean Call. Sorry for being so late. Life got in the way.
Cheers
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Post by oseas3 on Jun 25, 2021 14:00:35 GMT
Greetings in Christ JESUS
The potential manifestation of earth's leading Beast man -Revelation 13:v.11-18- it is imminent, this will happen in the near future. Get ready.
Revelation 7 - The remnant of the 12 tribes of Israel - the 144K - will be saved.
Revelation 7 reveals the number of FAITHFUL Israelites who will be saved, in fact they are the prophetic remnant of the 12 tribes of Israel; they will be saved from imminent dangers. As it is written, all Jews who do not have the seal of GOD on their foreheads will be grievously tormented, and their torment will be like the torment of the scorpion when it hurts man.
Furthermore, GOD will punish severely the unfaithful Jews, God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: believe in him whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth, that they might be saved, so they all might be damned who believed not the truth - BELIEVED NOT IN JESUS -, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Yeah, except the sealed and faithful 144K, everyone else will believe in the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist messiah, a false messiah, Who will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called GOD, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will sit in the temple of GOD, shewing himself that he is God.
The potential manifestation of earth's leading Beast man - Revelation 13:v.11 - is imminent, be sure that this will happen in the well near future. So there will be two strong and powerful, and devilish religious Beasts on the Earth, and the beginning of the fifth satanic kingdom, actually a divided kingdom, iron and clay - Catholicism and the esoteric, and kabbalistic and spiritist Judaism, the clay, - the satanic Antichrist's kingdom - in LITERAL fulfilment of Daniel 2:v.41 to 43 and Daniel chapters 7 to 12. Get ready.
The prophetic message of JESUS will fulfil LITERALLY. As JESUS said: John 5:v.43-47:
43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if ANOTHER shall come in his own name (AN IMPOSTOR, A FALSE MESSIAH, A DECEIVER MESSIAH), him ye will receive.
Matthew 23:v. 31-35
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city,
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
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