Seventh Day Adventists: Is It A Cult?

[rebel2020]

Posted with Permission from Les; First posted on the "You Decide" Forum.

DISCLAIMER: Everyone has the Right to follow or believe in any Religion of there Choice, But when it has a Devastating effect on there Children & Loved ones then its plain WRONG.

First watch the Video; Then I will share the Devastating Consequences of this Cult on my Life.

I was Brought up in an Adventist home, Love and Joy had No part of my Childhood, Just Beatings, Abuse, And Regulations and Control.

I did Not have the best of starts in Life, Having spent the first 2-3 Years in an Orphanage, Then Adopted into This Adventist Nightmare that I found myself in.

Regulations are extreme and Strict, With Violent Beatings for less then 100% Compliance. The Worst Nightmare Childhood you could think of.

As I grew older and Stronger, I started to Fight back, Result as expected, At age 15 (Back in the 1960s) I could legally Quit School, I Did & Left Home at the Same time.

Life in many ways got so much better, Couple of years Labouring on Building Sites, Then a spell in the Military, Learnt a lot & got my life Back on track.

Fast forward 50 Years, I will never be rich, But have good Mates, Im very much still a bit of a "Bad Arse" But now get into far fewer Fights.

Have worked and Travelled all over the World.

But IF I had a decent Childhood, Free of the Adventist Cult, I do wonder how much better things Could have been.

This "Cult" AVOID at all Costs.


First Posted Here;  judgment1x1.proboards.com/thread/571/seventh-day-adventists-cult

[Les Brewer]

Thank-you so much for sharing this my friend. We as forum leaders can share bits and pieces of what we think goes on in cults and describe them with the use of scriptures etc to warn others, but when some one like your self come on and share your testimony as you have done is truly appreciated.

I also want to thank-you for making a big step of joining 'Friends of Jesus' and hope that you will continue to feel in a safe place where you can ask questions like you have done already.


It's really great that you are here.

[gator]

I watched the video rebel2020 and found it very interesting. I am on another forum where there is a hard core 7^thDay Adventist and there is nothing you can do or say to convince her that she appears to be a part of a cult. She does defend Ellen G. White with a ferocious belief in her.

If you don't mind, I will refer another person to this forum and this video.

Cheers

[rebel2020]

Dec 25, 2020 21:52:08 GMT gator said:

I watched the video rebel2020 and found it very interesting. I am on another forum where there is a hard core 7^thDay Adventist and there is nothing you can do or say to convince her that she appears to be a part of a cult. She does defend Ellen G. White with a ferocious belief in her.

If you don't mind, I will refer another person to this forum and this video.

Cheers

Indeed that will be fine, Spread the Word, The more people understand the Harm & Damage that this (SDA) Cult is causing the better:
Being a Front line "Victim" I am able to explain the Impact of this Cult "First Hand"; I just hope that People will listen and Understand.

[rebel2020]

There has been Positive steps towards learning more about Jesus in recent years;

Started some 10 years ago, when finding myselth with a lot of time on my hands, And feeling the need to just get out of my cell for a hour on a Sunday, I signed up for the weekly Christian service that was available And enjoyed it !

On release from jail I found a small traditional Baptist chapel, and started to attend now and again; I was made very welcome,
And now attend on a far more regular basis, Who knows what the future may bring.
At the same time I discovered this forum, And are learning more day by day.

[gator]

 Being a Front line "Victim" I am able to explain the Impact of this Cult "First Hand"; I just hope that People will listen and Understand.

There's nothing quite like the voice of experience to squash some theories Rebel2020. Thanks for the feedback.

[corrina]

I just watched your video, rebel2020, and I'm sorry for the abuse you suffered. I worked with a couple of Jehovah's Witnesses and have first-hand experience how cults take control of people. It's like being hypnotized and programmed to where they no longer can think rationally. It's definitely demonic.

Along with gator, I also have been trying to witness to the person he mentions, without success. Your situation of abuse probably made it easier for you to leave the group, but do you have any suggestions for witnessing to someone who is quite content with it? It pains me so much to see anyone that deceived, and I haven't given up yet.

[rebel2020]

Hi Corrina,
And many thanks for watching the Video. Trying to explain to Adventists the errors of some of there Teachings is Not an easy path. Some of it most Christians can view with agreement, its some of there Teachings that are exclusive to them where things get far more difficult.
One could start with Desmond Ford and the infamous meeting at Glacier View in August 1980; That would guarantee to start a lively debate.

www.fulcrum7.com/news/2019/3/10/desmond-ford-passes-away   And   atoday.org/glacier-view-a-retrospective/ 
You will very quickly find out that Challenges to there teachings are Not well received.

Other SDA Teachings such as the "Investigation Judgement" (With no Biblical foundations) could also add some power to your Discussions. 

www.jesusisprecious.org/false_religion/sda/investigative_judgment_heresy.htm

I recently was told that SDA dont believe in Hell, Still researching this!

I also came across the Interesting/Terrifying SDA Rule Book, will look up a link for you; Here it is;  www.adventist.org/beliefs/statements/ 

Well that's a few things to start with, for anyone interested in the SDA Background.

My (Adopted) parents were members to they passed away some years ago, as was my Aunty & Uncle,

only person still living is a Cousin, brainwashed from birth, I have tried on many occasions to present the truth to her but I just get ignored every time, what a waste of a Life.

Have found a Problem with the Desmond Ford link given, Sorry; Please try this link instead.

religionnews.com/2019/03/12/desmond-ford-90-adventist-theologian-defrocked-for-controversial-beliefs-dies/

[gator]

www.exadventist.com/Portals/0/Articles/Discovering%20the%20New%20Covenant%20-%20Greg%20Taylor.pdf

Here is another one that is "the voice of experience" with the SDA. He used to be one of their preachers until he began asking some questions that they would prefer not to answer. He left. They didn't like that a bit.

I haven't read all of book yet but I am pecking away at it, having just finished Ch 5 where he is discussing his feelings about EGW.

[rebel2020]

Many thanks for your link gator,
have downloaded and just started reading threw it, most interesting,
No did not know that there so called 27 Doctrines were mandatory to follow or else !.
Very glad I "Got out" when I did, in what was a truly memorial weekend, way back in 1967;

Friday; Left School; 
Saturday; Started work (You can just guess how well that went down !)
Sunday; Left home for good.
I was 15 with the world at my feet, best thing I ever did was quit before the brainwashing got control of me.

Will fully read book and then give a review of it.

[gator]

It will be interesting to read your review rebel2020.

Like I keep telling people, there is nothing like the voice of experience.

[gator]

This is perhaps a bit of a rabbit trail but bear with me. The closest I think I came to these cults is when I was in junior high school. One of my friends had parents who were JW. And I mean they were serious JW's. If the temple doors were unlocked, they were at the temple - and usually dragging their three kids along. My friend hated it. I lost track of my friend when my dad bought a different house and we moved away.

Fast forward about thirty years. My Dad phoned me one night and asked me if I remembered this guy. So I told him that I did. He told me to watch the late news. So I did. Here was my former friend being arrested on a southern Saskatchewan highway as a drug lord mule hauling a cube van full of "used furniture" from the Vancouver docks to the Toronto area. Inside the furniture was millions of dollars worth of illegal drugs. I don't know if he is still in jail or not but it did happen a long long long time ago so my guess is that he is out and learned only how to be a better mule while he was in jail.

So what does this have to do with cult religions you ask? I'm not sure. But, I'd be willing to bet most of the cookie that, if he would have had parents who actually cared about him more than they cared about their cult, he might have turned into a pretty nice guy. Of course, we don't know and never will.

[rebel2020]

That is indeed interesting gator;
I remember I had mates in two SDA Family's, None of them stayed with the Church, or there family's , but left as soon as they legally could; Tells one something of "Adventist Homes" !.

Some years ago, I got into Conversation with a number of Lads, I wanted to know how they like me had ended up in Jail.
In every case it went back to there Childhoods, Family Violence, Drugs, Crime and unemployment, put them onto the wrong path.

Fore anyone who has never known a "Happy, Loving Family Home" It may well be very hard for them to understand that many have never known this Just the reverse.

It shows me, that Early childhood years have a tremendous impact on a young person, 
And what a responsibility Parents have for there Children.

[gator]

Thanks for the education rebel2020. It sounds like there might be a PhD dissertation in there somewhere for a budding psychologist. There may even be several dissertations as it is a very broad subject.

And I do know that most of the Sunday school kids I teach come from loving Christian homes and they are far better educated than the ones who come from broken homes. And I have had a few of them too. Unfortunately, it is easy to tell the difference.

[rebel2020]

Well its looking like the truth is going Mainstream;




People are no longer going to take the word of Any Church/Cult at face value,
As today with the Internet we are free to check out the facts, And are finding many "Churches" Wanting.