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Post by rstrats on Jan 13, 2021 2:41:26 GMT
There are some folks who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week. The Messiah said that He would be in the "heart of the earth" for 3 days and 3 nights. Of those who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week, there are some who think that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb. However, a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved with the Messiah's time in the tomb. To account for the lack of a 3rd night, there may be some of those mentioned above who try to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language. And that is the only issue of this topic, i.e., the commonality of saying that a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred. I'm simply asking anyone who may fall in the above group of believers if they might provide actual examples/instances to support the belief of commonality.
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Post by Les Brewer on Jan 13, 2021 13:43:59 GMT
There are some folks who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week. The Messiah said that He would be in the "heart of the earth" for 3 days and 3 nights. Of those who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week, there are some who think that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb. However, a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved with the Messiah's time in the tomb. To account for the lack of a 3rd night, there may be some of those mentioned above who try to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language. And that is the only issue of this topic, i.e., the commonality of saying that a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred. I'm simply asking anyone who may fall in the above group of believers if they might provide actual examples/instances to support the belief of commonality. Thankyou for sharing. The Bible does not explicitly state on which day of the week Jesus was crucified. The two most widely held views are Friday and Wednesday. Some, however, using a synthesis of both the Friday and Wednesday arguments, argue for Thursday as the day.
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Post by gator on Jan 18, 2021 4:19:26 GMT
There are some folks who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week. The Messiah said that He would be in the "heart of the earth" for 3 days and 3 nights. Of those who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week, there are some who think that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb. However, a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved with the Messiah's time in the tomb. To account for the lack of a 3rd night, there may be some of those mentioned above who try to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language. And that is the only issue of this topic, i.e., the commonality of saying that a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred. I'm simply asking anyone who may fall in the above group of believers if they might provide actual examples/instances to support the belief of commonality.
I did hear one theory on this about ten or so years ago rstrats. According to that theory, when Jesus made mention of the "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth", they were using a Roman calendar and that was eight days long. At the time, the Romans ruled the earth of course and therefore their calendar would have been the one of choice. The Jews only used a seven day calendar for their religious festivals. Mixing the two must have been very confusing.
I don't know if that theory ever gained any traction or not but it is the only one that made sense to me as far as solving that issue. Hope this helps.
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Post by rstrats on Jan 18, 2021 12:47:41 GMT
There are some folks who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week. The Messiah said that He would be in the "heart of the earth" for 3 days and 3 nights. Of those who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week, there are some who think that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb. However, a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved with the Messiah's time in the tomb. To account for the lack of a 3rd night, there may be some of those mentioned above who try to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language. And that is the only issue of this topic, i.e., the commonality of saying that a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred. I'm simply asking anyone who may fall in the above group of believers if they might provide actual examples/instances to support the belief of commonality.
I did hear one theory on this about ten or so years ago rstrats. According to that theory, when Jesus made mention of the "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth", they were using a Roman calendar and that was eight days long. At the time, the Romans ruled the earth of course and therefore their calendar would have been the one of choice. The Jews only used a seven day calendar for their religious festivals. Mixing the two must have been very confusing.
I don't know if that theory ever gained any traction or not but it is the only one that made sense to me as far as solving that issue. Hope this helps.
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Post by rstrats on Jan 18, 2021 12:50:33 GMT
I'm afraid not. I don't see where it provides examples of where a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could occur.
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Post by Les Brewer on Jan 18, 2021 17:08:54 GMT
I'm afraid not. I don't see where it provides examples of where a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could occur. I would be interested to know what your thoughts are on what day of the week that Jesus died. Also, what the "heart of the earth" reference means to you.
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Post by gator on Jan 21, 2021 3:41:27 GMT
Let me try to describe it this way rstrats. Let us imagine that we still used the Roman calendar. I don't know what they used to call the eighth day of their week. For our purposes, let us call it "Eighth day". This being the case, Jesus would have been crucified on the Friday. He was in the tomb Friday evening and all day Saturday and Saturday evening, and all day "Eighth day" and all night of "Eighth" day. He finally rose on Sunday sometime before the ladies got to the tomb to see Him.
This gives us Friday night, Saturday night, "Eighth day" night and Sunday morning before the empty tomb was discovered. This is three days and three nights in the tomb before He was discovered missing on the Sunday.
As I said though, I don't know if this theory ever gained any traction or not.
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